Collections, at last


The Motive. From the beginning, LibraryThing members have used the site for different things. Some used it to list only the books they own, others what they've read and a few even just the books they wanted. Meanwhile, people like me used it for everything—owned, read, lost, destroyed, wanted—using tagging as our sole way of keeping everything straight. But even tag-zealots like me had to admit there were times you wanted sharper distinctions—"buckets" or "sub-libraries"—and ways to tie those to how you connected with other members and with book recommendations. New members, whether familiar with tags or not, were regularly asking for some way to do wishlists and currently-reading lists.
The Feature. The feature, literally years in the making, gives members the ability to separate out categories of books, like "Wishlist" and "Currently reading" more definitely than could be accomplished with tags. Each collections works like a mini library and can be separately viewed, sorted and searched. Other members can see your collections, on your profile and elsewhere. Features like member-to-member connection and book recommendations react to the new system as well. (See below on integration progress.)

A Work in Progress. As members know, we play things pretty fast and lose here. Our motto is "beta, forevah!" But collections had to be different. Before public release we subjected it to a month of testing in our large (and non-exclusive) BETA Group. We cannot thank that group enough for all the work they did, and the passion they showed.

We also think "unfinished" (we prefer not prematurely specified) features are the best way to engage users, and get the best for everyone. Come and contribute on Recommended Site Improvements and Bug Collectors. We also have a Announcement post in New Features.
*We had spec'ed out a complex interaction between reading-dates and "Currently reading." But the system was probably more than most members wanted. And it certainly was taking a long time to finish, so, for now at least "Currently reading" is just a collection.
Credits: Chris (conceptDawg) headed up the project, doing most of the user interface and a majority of the back-end code. Chris and I (timspalding) designed the feature together, and I did some core back-end code. Abby (ablachly) didn't code, but she dogged us about it for years. (I'm not sure what she's going to do with herself now.) But the most important factor was the members. Members, particularly the BETA group, contributed to the effort as I've never seen it—not in any website or project, ever. Chris and I owe members an enormous amount. (I'll be blogging about this specifically soon. It needs telling.)
Top photo by radiant_guy" (Flickr, CC-SA).
Labels: cataloging, collections, new feature, new features, tagging
93 Comments:
Thank you so much guys, this is amazing.
Oh super! I've wanted to keep track of what library books I've borrowed and read, but didn't want them entered as books that I "own" so this will be quite useful for me!
A day of great rejoicing in book land, to be sure.
I think I am in shock! You've made my day for sure! Great work!
It is wonderful. I've already been playing around and it works very well. Thank you!
WOOHOO!
Thanks a lot Tim & Co.!
YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!!
I'm so very happy now!!!
Loving it so far! Thanks for all your hard work :)
Oh WOW! I had to run off and try it out right away. This is stupendous! Magnificent! Oh frabjous serendipity!
What a fun sandbox you have made - thank you Tim and company.
That's a great idea!
AAAaaaahhh!! This is awesome..
Thank you so much guys!
Thank you so much!
Excellent, thanks LT!
I've wanted this for library books, wishlist, stuff for my masters etc. forever. Yippee!
Much thanks to everyone involved who worked and may still be working on collections. This is an exciting new step for LT!
I just bibliogasmed!
Truly a major improvement - it's a whole new game, now.
I have a thesis to write, and you go and do this. AAAARRRGGH!
Is there a "how to" somewhere? I'd like to know, for example, if I can export my library to Excel, edit in the collection field(s), and then import back into LT. Sounds exciting!!
It's probably a good thing I have my umbrella with me today. There are pigs flying about, and I don't want to run the risk of smelling of barnyard for the next week.
Finally I can have a real wishlist, and separate a special interest topic into its own collection. LT is getting better all the time... Just one thing missing - the blog widget still can only filter tags, but not collections.
All of this looks very useful. Thanks for the hard work.
It looks wonderful - I can't wait to experiment! Thanks for timing this to coincide with the end of school!
Thank you so much guys. My LT membership is the best investment I made ever (excepted 12 roses and a bottle of Champagne some years ago...)
Since I didn't code on this one I feel at total liberty to say that you guys are amazing. Seriously awesome.
This totally rocks. Will the export feature be updated at some point to allow exporting of specific collections as opposed to the whole library?
Hallelujah!
wow its like you're inside our heads!
OMG, I think I just had a geekgasm.
How cool! So will this give me the ability to take some books out of the recommendation system by putting them in a separate collection? (rushes off to try it). My problem is I like to list all the books I have read, even the duds, which means I then get recommendations based on books I hated!
Maybe this could be one option for a default collection - all books which are rated, say, 1.5 or less could go into a collection called 'not for recommendation'?
This is GLORIOUS! Thank you so much.
Thank you SO MUCH for this feature. I played around with it a bit this afternoon and I'm in love.
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Whoo-hoo! Now I get to spend more time here and procrastinating on the "home" stuff. Thanks heaps!
Brilliant! ESP?
Great! Thanks for all your hard work, LT guys!
Yay guys, good job - I've been waiting years for this feature. Now I need to covert all my tags to Collections. Flash-mob, anyone?
Congratulations! :-D
> Is there a "how to" somewhere?
Yes: librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Collections
Per usual, Library Thing rules.
Thanks again :-)
I love, love, LOVE this! Now my to-read pile is a click away :p
Thank yo for your dedication, fellow booklovers!
Very very nice. And a bit spooky - my books tagged "now reading" were automatically put in my "Currently reading" collection. Very cool!
I think that the level of member involvement is a testament to the community you have created here - if you purchase something that provides a service, you don't engage with it but you expect it to provide you with aforementioned 'service' on demand; if you are a member of a community, there's a sense of personal responsibility towards building and improving that community. LT is definitely a community and that's really down to you guys and the interaction between 'management' and users. Or to put it more succinctly, you get back what you put in and it works both ways.
(And Collections are, most definitely, quite a little bit special ... thanks for all the work!)
YOu guys are beautiful people - thankyou!
Thanks, LT! This is great!
Brilliant! Thank you.
Yeehaw!
Thank you!!!!!!!
Ooh, excellent! I'm thrilled to have this to play around with. Thanks, as ever, for all the hard work!
This is awesome, I can't wait to have time to play around with it!
Is there a way to link directly to a collection, like if I wanted to point someone to just my to-be-read stuff without having to choose that collection from the drop-down menu?
This is fantastic! Thank you! All that's needed are the widgets, so I can simply display my "Currently Reading" books or my "WishList".
No hurry there though, my messy php has been working (off and on) for a while.
The chance to take my wife's books out of the Recommendation Engine equation is reason enough to jump up and down!
Kudos to everyone involved!
Gretchen, yes you can link directly to a collection. The permanent link at the bottom of the page now includes the collection in the link.
Good job!
I can't believe how many problems this will solve! I'm so happy I could cry!
Love. It. You guys are the best!
I love it, I love it, I love it. I'm closing down my 'other' account with the library and I-don't-have-it-anymore books and integrating them into my main account. Thank you so much!
Damn...right when I stopped being addicted to Librarything you have to go and pull me right back in...damn
I have been struggling for some time to get a good tbr list on my catalog and now I put one together in 15 minutes. The simplicity and function of "Collections" shows great skill. Your creation of these features shows an intuitive understanding of what is useful for members of LT and the capabilities of all those 1's and 0's.
Oh what bliss, now I can combine all my lists in one place. Wonderful LT.
Thanks for all the hard work LT. Absolutely Love It!
OMG this is fantastic!
sorry to pour iced water on everyone's joy, but this techluddite here doesn't get the fuss. What's the difference between this and tags?
*cowering and waiting for a rain of blows*
I'm a luddite, too (see previous comment)...and I don't get the deal, either.
I keep hoping that an old feature will be reinstated...
the one from the author page which showed how many titles members had by that author, so that one could easily find LTers with similar interest in (for me anyway) works by obscure-to-vintage authors.
> What's the difference between this and tags?
- You can add books that you don't own (wishlist, owned but gave away, read but from a library etc.) You can do this with tags, but for some of us it feels wrong ;-)
- You can exclude books in your library from having an influence on the suggestion feature.
This is absolutely wonderful...now I have to send the kids away for the weekend so I can play around with this undisturbed, lol!
I've been waiting for this & am so excited!
BUT...I can't use it! Everytime I try to click on the edit icon, it disappears as soon as the cursor goes near it. What an I doing wrong??
This is really great! Is there a way to categorize a whole section of my library at once, without having to do each book individually? I'm thinking say, if I want all my books that are tagged "mine" in a collection called "mine"...can I do it in a batch somehow?
Forgive the off-topic comment, but I don't know where it should go and I need to get it off my chest: could people *please* not go into random author pages and check the male/female button based on a guess? I just found Alex Von Tunzelmann marked "male" (with, as usual, no other boxes filled in); she is, in fact, female. If you want to do some research on an author, great, you're contributing to the sum of human knowledge. Otherwise, please just leave it alone.
Amy - I thought that feature was already back?
I really love the new cataloging features, especially the Wishlist option. I really anticipated being able to use this when I'm in the bookstore shopping and using LT mobile. Well, I really hate to come off sounding like an ingrate, but I just added a book and cataloged it in my Wishlist. When I went to LT mobile, the book comes up, but it doesn't denote that it's a Wishlist book. I'll be in the bookstore wondering, is this already in my library or do I need to purchase it. I can see it being a great feature when I'm sitting at home buying books online, but I can already see it's not going to serve my needs when I'm in a physical bookstore shopping.
petersonvl
What are you going to do with the rest of your life? You're going to figure out some way to have a data structure to deal with listing short stories in anthologies so that they are searchable. Not having this has been driving my friends BONKERS, lol.
I think wishlist should be a separate feature, similar to Amazon, with an unlimited number of wishlists - I have about 20 Amazon wishlists (History, Health, Modern Fiction etc..) - it's doable with the current collections system, but messy mixed in with other collections. And impossible for LT to analyze or data-mine since there is no way to know which collection is a wishlist (unless it's named "Wishlist", which is no guarantee when one has multiple wishlists).
Oh My - I can finally easily sort by ROOM! Yes, some books just live in certain rooms/bookcases, so they are most likely to be found there.
Thank you.
OMG! I have been waiting for this for so long. I have only been adding the actual books that I have read on the date I started them, but now...HISTORY! I can add the thousands of books I own and I can add a cookbook without getting it all confused with fiction, even if it is called To Serve Man. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
Thank you. This will be wonderful!
I can't find the words to express my happiness! I practically screamed with joy. My non-reading co-workers in the cubes surrounding thought I was nuts, but what do THEY know?
This is great -- I didn't think collections were a big deal, but I find I am thrilled. Must be some library geek thing. Also I have been waiting for some time for an opportunity to point out how superior LT is to other products such as the Visual Bookshelf/Living Social Books app on Facebook. Yea LT!
You all rock!! This is a terrific feature. What a lovely surprise to find on the site. Love the flexibility of being able to edit the collections categories. Now converting some of my tags into collections.
I love that you are always improving this site. Thank you so much. I have sent my money to help you out and to not be a freeloader anymore. Thanks for the opportunity to share books, list my personal books, and to review what others are reading. You are a godsend, along with my local library.
Woohoo! Awkward hugs all around!
This is a great feature, though I was already using tags to do the same thing (to read, currently reading, wish list, etc.) I do have one concern, though. If everyone who was using a "to read" or "currently reading" tag stops using those tags because they can use collections, we won't be able to do tagmashes like "to read, mystery" or "currently reading, literary fiction" to get an idea of what's currently popular for a specific tag.
Oh, good. Does that mean that those of us who care about good data get some of OUR feature requests next? Like, say, omnibus and anthology cataloging that doesn't suck?
Hey there!
I wonder if it'd be possible to implement a drag-n-drop way of sorting "tags" into "collections"?
Ta.
Anonymous: Yes, it does mean that!
Just wanted to say thank you so much! This is fantastic.
Love the whole idea and started using it ... but midway through it treats me like a visitor to my own account and then I can't edit :-(
Muchas gracias, es una maravilla.
When entering on collections and making a selection, the total list of collections I have created is too large to see all at once - the screen seems to hide some collection names. I then have to scroll, etc. Can you bring the list to the front? Thanks.
It won't be too originak to note that this is a major improvement.
Thanks LT
Very nice feature. I used tags but this looks much better.
The "Collections" feature is wonderful! Thank you for adding it!!
This is an amazing feature. Now I won't have to put so many tags on my books. Thank you so much LibraryThing!
I'm late to the party, but I have been avidly awaiting collections for years. I had to use a second book site because I wanted to keep track of books I read but didn't own without them being part of my actual library. Now I can do that right on LT--in fact, LT officially has everything I could ever dream of wanting in a book cataloging utility, but I know you guys will roll out more and more great features in the future! THANKS so much--you guys probably run the best site in the woooorld.
Long, long ago when collections was first mooted, I tagged books as @NOT OWNED, as I read that this would make it easier to transfer these to a collection when the feature arrived. So, now it has, how can I transfer en bloc books tagged @NOT OWNED to the Read but Unowned Collection, without having to edit each one individually? Thanks, John
Yay! I'm so happy! But I had a book in my currently reading and I moved it to read but unowned. Then I deleted it from currently reading and it deleted the book from read but unowned too. I'm guessing there's a way for it not to do this. How?
Deleting a book deletes it from all collections. (The delete message says this.) To remove a book from a collection, change the collection for it. You can de-select the collection or uncheck the checkbox, depending where in the interface you are.
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