Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Top ten suggestions


Member lilypadma suggested we hire more people. But finding new good people is hard, so we opted for cloning.**
Just over a week ago* we asked members to come up with their recommendations on "Ten Ways to Make LibraryThing Better." We promised to pick twenty-five winners, including ten winning answers and fifteen random picks.

Members heard the call, writing 259 answers for a total of 45,000 words--slightly longer than Henry James's Turn of the Screw. Last week Sonya, Abby, Casey and I got together to work on LibraryThing for Libraries. We took a break on Wednesday to (drink and) read through the answers. We couldn't pick just ten winners, so I've expanded it to 17--32 winners total. We could have easily done 50 more.

The Prizes. Winners get to chose between (1) A CueCat barcode scanner; (2) A LibraryThing t-shirt; (3) First dibs on a LibraryThing Early Reviewers book.

Winners should let Abby (abby@librarything.com) know what you want. If you want the Early Reviewer book, you're also going to need to change your Early Reviewers picks to select just one book. We're going to give you an "ER mojo" of a million, so whatever you pick, you'll get.

The Winners. Random Winners: rfb, maryanntherese, jocainster, Imprinted, circeus, jabogaer, rastaphrog, claudiuo, jjmcgaffey, arnzen, trojanpotato, surly, phoenixfire, sigridsmith

sophies_choice (7): "Let us mark which books are our favourite." I'm divided whether to make this work like author and venue favorites, or to make it a "collection."

PhoenixTerran (31): "Update debris and author pages immediately after combining/separating has occurred" A big leap is going to happen here very soon, with the introduction of a more stable "editions" layer. I'm actually doing edition-level calculations in the background today, with an eye to inaugurating the system on a limited basis tonight.

Philtill (160): We all loved Philtill's ten suggestions, which amount to "Make LibraryThing more like Tickle." There are dangers to personality tests and statistical correlatons, of course. But we love to play with data, and "tell me about myself" is one of the main reasons people use LibraryThing anyway. So, expect us to take these ideas seriously.

jocainster (28): "Add a link to the book's main page in the 'Recently Added' section." Abby had to be restrained after reading this one.

parelle (44): Parelle wrote two related suggestions--LT bookmarks and a parnership with Moo Cards. dreamlikecheese focused in on sending cards to libraries and bookshops. This is one area we're definitely going to look into.

sabreuse (152). "I was at a conference last week where I picked up several new books, but didn't have internet access all day. And I realized that I want to be able to add books by SMS, the same way I can send photos directly to flickr or add events to my google calendar by text message, both of which I do all the time. I'd love to be able to add new ISBNs to my library while I'm out shopping, or traveling, or tied up away from a computer."

nperrin (17): "Some ingenious way to link books to books about them. If I'm looking at a novel, I want to know how to find the best criticism of that novel or author."

usquam (109): "Work with publishers to get better integration of their catalogues into LibraryThing. They should have covers, contents, editions, etc - as per the new 'series' area, it would be interesting to see what we have from a particular publisher, and then have them show other editions or titles we might like or are missing."

susiebright (155): "I loved Secret Santa; it was the hightlight of my Xmas gift giving because it was so entirely unexpected. I think you should offer a 'Birthday Surprise' gift program of the same kind. You pick a 'birthday kid's name' out of the hat, and send them a book based on what you glean from their library!'" We're thinking that BirthdayThing could be hard to arrange, but doing a mid-year (June 25?) Secret Santa sounds fun. This time, members are doing the ordering!

yhoitink (9): "Add the European Library as a source." Casey is squarely behind this one.

amysisson (87): "a virtual 'badge' or 'ribbon' (like LT author) for on the profile pages of people who've contributed over a certain level(s) of info, such as CK or combining" I'd love to do something like this. I'm attracted to the Barnstar model.

papyri (95): "Provenance, ex-libris (previous owner(s)) info listing (can be done like multiple authors). Possibly including dates and locations. Privacy option for this would be nice." Sophies_Choice also suggested this be integrated with LT Local. Good stuff.

ssd7 (111) "Cross Source Searching. So, I would like to get my data from the LoC. But I would also like to just punch in an ISBN. These two desires are not always compatible since searching on ISBN's often yields nothing from the LoC. When a search returns no results why not use the LT database or Amazon to find the title and then research for the user? Or at the very least let me set up a 'priority' listing of the sources so that if LoC yields nothing, it will automagically search Amazon." ssd7 (111) also suggested "Open source the code." This continues to interest us. No promises.

hegelian (16): "OpenID might be a smarter way to login for some people."

_Zoe_ (24): "The ability to reset the unread marker at the message you've actually read up to."

zcannon (25): "A widget that works on Wordpress."

TerrierGirl (34): "Could each book's original copyright year be added to the my library, add to library screens? This would help interested potential readers place each book in time. Also, it would tell a reader when a particular book fell within that writer's career." I've wanted to do this for some time.

Notes on Method. We decided to leave off a small number of common topics, including collections, author disambiguation, HelpThing, tagging of groups, web links on book pages, more than seven columns, and a Facebook application. They are very much on our radar already. Seeing them over and over again had its effect, you can be sure.

We also left off suggestions for features completed since we asked the question, like better tags, and to avoid new features in favor of bug-fixing. It's a delicate thing, and not one we've always gotten right, I'll admit. I've been on a bug-fixing and performance kick recently.


*That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
**The person you don't know is Mike, a local Portland programmer working with us part-time for a few months. Note, I was supposed to be also sitting in the chair—reading Everything is Miscellaneous—but there was a tragic head/butt airspace issue.

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19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suggested bookmarks at #39, before Parelle at #44 -- was it the Moo Cards thing that put her over the top?

5/13/2008 4:50 PM  
Blogger WorldMaker said...

Um... should I feel sad that someone else got credited for my wording of a feature, which was also posted first? (I mentioned OpenID first.)

5/13/2008 5:25 PM  
Blogger Tim said...

Sorry to both of you. It wasn't intentional. In the cae of Moo Cards, that was what attracted me. When I went back to read it again, I decided to expand it to the whole entry.

5/13/2008 5:38 PM  
Blogger Tito said...

I prefer LibraryThing (interface/community) to Google Books, but they have the added feature of being able to search your library for certain words or phrases and see what books, page numbers, and even see the page images they occur on.

Is there anyway you guys could collaborate with them? I believe there's an API:
http://code.google.com/apis/books/

If you need a software developer,
let me know!

5/13/2008 7:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you said web links on book pages with on the radar, I went WOOOOOOOOO!

Thanks for the great contest. =)

5/13/2008 8:16 PM  
Blogger Tim said...

We *are* collaborating with them; see http://www.librarything.com/blog/2008/03/google-books-in-librarything.php

5/13/2008 9:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think book favourites should be a collection to avoid combining problems. Otherwise, what would happen if I wanted to include, say, the Latin Harry Potter among my favourites, and (ARGH!) it got combined with all the other Harry Potters yet again? What book would the "favouriting" stick to?

In addition to favourites, I'd really like a separate "treasured" designation that could only be given to a limited number of books.

I had never heard of barnstars before this, but I love the concept!

5/13/2008 9:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the idea of barnstars! In addition, if/when that happens, would it be possible to have a list somewhere of everyone who has those stars? More then once I've been wandering around the forums, especially the Combiners group, and thought how awesome it would be if I could see some sort of list of everyone who has done a ton of work in that area.

While I don't agree with everything here (I shudder at the thought of "Make LibraryThing more like Tickle."), I'm absolutely giddy over the prospects here!

5/13/2008 10:23 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Am propmted to send my suggestion now to help make improvements a rolling programme. As many of the books I buy are pre-owned (or 'second-hand' to Brits like me) itwould be useful to have a way of entering the price paid for the book. This would also help in the event of an insurance claim. I would want to be able to use pounds sterling but a dual facility since some books are bought from other countries would be great addition.

5/14/2008 4:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I for one am currently fixated on improvinf LibraryThing for Libraries - give me all the current goodness of common-or-garden-variety LibraryThing for our OPAC, and then i'll be in a constant state of bliss :)

That, and what I have suggested on a previous occasion - Common Knowledge feature which allows you to put in what books are referenced in a work (so that they can then link in to their LT work).

5/14/2008 6:09 AM  
Blogger Lilithcat said...

Bring back "nevering".

Please.

5/14/2008 10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo what about allowing tags to be added to groups? That'd be awesome! =)

5/16/2008 12:18 AM  
Blogger Σmpire said...

Who is the blond? ;-)

Just teasing. I love the suggestions listed. But, then again, I just love LT in general.

---Bardsfingertips

5/16/2008 12:55 PM  
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5/18/2008 10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Job Guys !! Thanks.

5/21/2008 8:06 AM  
Blogger hubert guillaud said...

I wanna a whislist in my LT. Is-it possible ?

7/17/2008 8:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The outcome of this challenge would interest me, even very much! Are the best ten suggestions published anywhere?

9/05/2008 11:41 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

A bit behind the times on this, I know, but I'm concerned about some of the bug messages posted to Talk that are just ignored or left unresolved. I know you feel a need to keep moving forward, but I think there's a certain minimum level of responsiveness that you need to maintain to keep paying customers satisfied. Example:
group feeds. There are two threads on this matter (not to mention two unanswered emails to Abby) and the problem seems to have been left largely alone for about a year and a half. If it's just one isolated item, I guess nothing's perfect, but I'd hate to think it might be a common pattern.

11/11/2008 12:53 AM  
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