Tuesday, January 01, 2008

Happy 1815! Thomas Jefferson is done.

An unusual member has finished adding his 4,889 books to LibraryThing—our third president, Thomas Jefferson!

Jefferson, 264, was assisted by sixteen LibraryThing members, led by jbd1. Together, they cataloged 4,889 books (6,487 volumes), added 187 of his reviews (a treat), and tagged them 4,889 times, according to Jefferson's own innovative/weird classification system.

It was hard work, but it only took them four months. They worked from scholarly reconstructions of Jefferson's 1815 books, tracking down records in 34 libraries around the world. As is well known, Jefferson sold his books to the Library of Congress, replacing the one the British destroyed during the War of 1812. This 1815 library is Jefferson's best-documented library. (Of course, Jefferson spent the rest of his life building up another personal collection.)

Why do it? What's the point? After all, scans of the scholarly catalog were already available from the LC. But browsing his library is a breeze now—it's a LibraryThing library just like another.

From Jefferson's profile you can take advantage of all the special features, like spying on his author cloud, tag cloud, author gallery and stats page. (Everyone knows he was a Francophile, but it's neat to see he had 45% as many French as English books.)

What's your Jefferson number? You can also find out how many books you share, either on his profile or a new section on your stats page. Right now the top shared-user is ellenandjim, with 69 works and 79 books. Your number is going to go up, however, as the combination work continues.

About the effort. The effort to catalog Jefferson's books was coordinated through the group I See Dead People['s Books]. Here's the post announcing the completion.

It was exacting work. I stalled after few dozen books. Thanks are therefore due to the sixteen members who contributed, and particularly to the two biggest contributors, jbd1 and jjlong. I met jbd1—Jeremy Dibbell—at the Boston International Antiquarian Book Fair. He is just weeks short of an MLS from Simmons College, and has just taken a full-time job at the Massachusetts Historical Society. About jjlong, Jeremy doesn't know anything more than his first name, Joel, and his state, Tennessee. [UPDATE: Jeremy has put up his own blog post.]

Work has already begun on other dead worthies, with William Faulkner and Tupac Shakur the farthest along. I'm guessing that when Jefferson's opponent John Adams is entered, they're show up as each other's top sharers!

Why Jefferson is Web 2.0 hip. As Tim O'Reilly recently put it*, LibraryThing (and Geni.com) presents different sorts of "social graph" (social network). On LibraryThing it's not just "friends"—a powerful but rather simple way of seeing the world—but a different set of connections: how you relate to others through taste and interest. We're aiming for something more than "who are your bookish friends?" or "what are your friends reading?" but "what is the world of books, and how do you fit in?"**

A paradoxical result of this—one that the "Web 2.0"-types mostly don't understand—is that not all uses of our "social network" are social. I watch a number of users I have never spoken to; their taste in books is interesting enough. The tags and recommendations I watch work the same way. They're socially created, but they're not always about social interaction.

In MySpace and the lot, dead people are boring. Recently-deceased people get tributes on their comment page; MyDeathSpace has even built up a ghoulish, ad-driven business*** off teen suicides and car wrecks. But that's about it. Historical dead people are jokes and get deleted.

On LibraryThing there are no such limitations. Books are a sort of mental world, and shared books a shared mental space. Dead or alive, it's interesting to know that Jefferson and I share the world of Longus' Daphnis and Chloe and de las Casas' Destruction of the Indies (he read both in Italian!). It's also interesting too to see that Jefferson, a Deist, had more books on Christian theology than all but a few libraries in LibraryThing, 25 books of Ecclesiastical history and 19 of Ecclesiastical law!

And Jefferson is just the start. Every library, bibliography and list, every publisher, author, bookseller and reader adds meaning to the whole, and there is no end to how the data can be turned. What books had both Jefferson and King George read? How many of my books were in the libraries of Photius or at Monte Cassino. What living author has my taste in novels? What NYT reviewer hates the same books I do? What bookstore sells the books I like? What town buys the most vampire smut? Calculating book-to-book affinities, which founding father is most likely to have enjoyed Chicken Soup for the Cat-Lover's Soul? (It's Burr, definitely.)


* Near the end. Geni.com is a Web 2.0 genealogy site, where the dead people are the metadata!
**I like the word bibliosphere, with its implicit comparison to the blogosphere. As stuffed-shirts like Michael Gorman fail to recognize, books have always been subjective, imperfect and in conversation with other books.
***A page of suicides is currently giving me a Viagra ad. They also make money from tshirts. Blech.

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20 Comments:

Blogger Rob J. M. said...

An* unusual

1/01/2008 8:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On a similar theme as rob's library's comment - should your title say "Thomas Jefferson IS Done"?

Pretty neat that it's done!

1/01/2008 9:58 AM  
Blogger Tim said...

Sorry for the typos; corrected and added some thoughts.

1/01/2008 10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is George III's library available somewhere, or a list of his tomes? I read he kept his library easily available for scholars. He also enjoyed discussing books with his visitors, which startled them somewhat.

1/01/2008 3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jefferson was not MY third President, nor of most of the world.

1/01/2008 3:07 PM  
Blogger JBD said...

_celeste_ - the British Library has a web introduction to George III's Library here. There's a bibliography at the end of that page with some more materials.

Yes, it's awfully neat that the King made his library available - Samuel Johnson apparently enjoyed going there and using the books, as did many other scholars.

1/01/2008 4:14 PM  
Blogger Lilithcat said...

Hmm, I don't really share 17 books with him. It just looks that way because he has multiple copies in a variety of languages! Show-off. ;-))

1/01/2008 7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes!!! to Jefferson's library.

No!! to those who don't understand the simple human need to discuss good books with smart readers.

I'm not chumming for friends or dates here, it's just about the literature and expanding my horizons with other readers from the comfort of my kitchen.

To anonymous,
please forgive us our trespasses as creatures of habit - this web sight was created in the US, a lot of us live here, and our ethnocentricity is not an insult, just a small oversight, a faux pas if you will. We mean no harm. I have several times been unintentionally american in my comments, due to the hum drum of my daily life, and my oversight of the amazing worldwide reach of this site. Glad to have everyone aboard, love the Global community, sorry if you're offend by word choice. You have to admit that we american LTers should be excited about this and that the staff shouldn't be lambasted for forgetting how far they've grown...
Everything is more complicated than it need be....sigh.

1/01/2008 8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Jefferson was not MY third President, nor of most of the world."

Er.. what is your point. Tim is American, we all know what he meant.

I'm not American.. should I be offended?

1/01/2008 10:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just goes to show how even the most vanilla, innocuous comment can offend someone in this hypersensitive age.

How silly.

Anyways, back to Jefferson - such a swell idea. The possibilities for other libraries of note are endless.. as is the idea of the bibliosphere. The notion that one inhabits the same 'headspace' as a noted historical figure - with the ability to compare it - is insane!

1/01/2008 10:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jbd, thanks for the link! I'd forgotten that it was 65,000 books strong by the time the king died and formed the core of the British Library. It's fascinating that it is now one of our resources here at LibraryThing, isn't it?

I also find it interesting that George III and Thomas Jefferson were very different politically, but very similar in many of their interests. I wonder what would have happened if they'd had LibraryThing in their day?

1/02/2008 2:05 AM  
Blogger Tim said...

Vegemite sales would be higher.

1/02/2008 2:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weetabix, too ...

1/02/2008 1:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to apologise for being too grumpy in my original post. We all use words like "fortnight" and "stone" in everyday conversation [guess my nationality !] but we should not in the printed word detract from the argument that the possession or reading of a book does not, of itself, indicate a political, social, or theological position.

1/02/2008 2:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...we should not in the printed word detract from the argument that the possession or reading of a book does not, of itself, indicate a political, social, or theological position.

Actually, I don't think anyone here is arguing that point. Think of the differing viewpoints of those who own a copy of a Bible!

However, even though the possession of a single book doesn't tell us what they thought of it (or even if the owner read the book), the contents of a person's library CAN indicate interest in a subject.

Despite their mutual interests in politics, religion, science and philosophy, Jefferson and George III held vastly different opinions. I find it interesting they owned some of the same books, though, and would love to know their thoughts on what they read.

I hope an American's interest in British history isn't offensive to you. Part of my enjoyment of my trip to the UK was observing the similarities and differences between the countries. I like to think that differences don't automatically mean antipathy. Surely we can exchange ideas without rancor. If not, an international LibraryThing is doomed to failure.

Not a happy thought.

Peace.

1/02/2008 8:57 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Please excuse me while I paste:

"When the original Library of Congress was burned in the War of 1812, Thomas Jefferson sold his personal library of about 6,500 books to the government to replace it. To commemorate the library’s bicentennial, a special exhibition on Jefferson was developed. The exhibit helps to illuminate the intellectual background of one of the most revered figures in American history. The exhibit became so popular that the Library now plans to make it a permanent installation at a new location."

What books were destroyed in the aforementioned fire that were not in Jefferson's collection?

1/03/2008 5:59 PM  
Blogger JBD said...

ray gray - The original Library of Congress was created by act of Congress in 1800. There were about 3,000 books in the collection (housed in the Capitol building) when the British burned Washington in 1814. The first printed catalogue of the collection, "Catalogue of the Books, Maps and Charts Belonging to the Library of the Two Houses of Congress" was published in 1802, with other editions following in 1804, 1808 and 1812. Those are available via the Shaw/Shoemaker digital database if you have access to that; a quick search of Google Books, Live Search and the Archive.org project didn't reveal any online editions of those catalogues (so far). If you have trouble getting ahold of them let me know, I should be able to email a PDF to you.

1/03/2008 7:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There were about 3,000 books in the collection (housed in the Capitol building) when the British burned Washington in 1814 [during the War of 1812].

Er ... sorry about that, guys :-(

- LibraryThinger up in Canada

1/03/2008 11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did Jefferson pay $25 for his LT account?

1/05/2008 2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some analysis of Jefferson's library.

Two technical observations for LibraryThing:
1) It looks like you're including blank years as zeros in your average publication year calculation.

2) Median publication year is a more informative statistics than average publication year.

2/04/2008 12:21 AM  

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