Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Tagmash!

Tagmash: alcohol, history gets over the fact that almost nobody tags things history of alcohol

Short version: I've just gone live with a new feature called "tagmash," pages for the intersections of tags. This is a fairly obvious thing to do, but it isn't trivial in context. In getting past words or short phrases, tagmash closes some of the gap between tagging and professional subject classifications.

For example, there is no good tag for "France during WWII." Most people just don't tag that verbosely. Tagmash allows for a page combining the two: France, wwii. If you want to skip the novels, you can do france, wwii, -fiction. The results are remarkably good.

Tagmash pages are created when a user asks for the combination, but unlike a "search" they persist, and show up elsewhere. For example, the tagmash for France, Germany shows France, wwii as a partial overlap, alongside others. Related tagmashes now also show up on select tag and library subject pages, as a third system for browsing the limitless world of books.

Booooring? Go ahead and play a bit:
That's the short version. But stop here and you'll never know what Zombie Listmania is!

(full post over at Thingology, "Tagmash: Book tagging grows up")

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22 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a really nice feature! I stumbled a bit on this because when I went to a tag page there were no instructions no how to mash the tags. I had to go through the links on the blog to figure it out (just dump them in the tag search, separated by a ",")

7/24/2007 8:53 AM  
Blogger Ash said...

Awesome feature...but a little hard to get to.

Would it be possible to be able to run a tagmash from the search tab?

7/24/2007 9:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awesome!! *gets all giddy and goes to play with it*

7/24/2007 9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very, very cool. Now, if we could only use it on our own libraries . . . . :)

7/24/2007 11:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think there should be some pretty explicit, dumbed-down-fer-us-idjits instructions on how to do this. I can't even make the tagmashes given as examples in the blog post work.

7/24/2007 11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tim, this is just BRILLIANT. I LOVE it! -Katissima

7/24/2007 12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great. Where is it? There needs to be a link somewhere or a labled search box.

7/24/2007 12:44 PM  
Blogger Rob Szarka said...

Sweet! This was my most-wanted feature on LT! Now what will I find to complain about, I wonder? ;)

7/24/2007 1:49 PM  
Blogger Rob Szarka said...

Oh, wait.

/me makes pouty face

OK, this feature is cool, don't get me wrong, but...

I want to look at intersections of my own tags. (Actually, I want boolean searches of all kinds, but that just seems greedy.) Tagmash doesn't let me do that, does it?

7/24/2007 1:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

> intersections of my own tags

You can do this by clicking on the search tab and using the field below "Your library".

There is a link to 'advanced tips'.

7/24/2007 4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOVE THIS! Makes searching a breeze but feature is difficult to find. I had to go through link on blog. Can it be added to search screen?

7/24/2007 4:46 PM  
Blogger Rob Szarka said...

Ah-ha! Thanks, sunny!

I had no idea you could use multiple tags a la

tag:math,economics

Tim, you might want to put in some examples like that so folks like me know it's possible.

7/24/2007 5:29 PM  
Blogger Rob Szarka said...

Oh, wait. I got excited too soon...

tag:math,economics

only seems to find books where the tag "math" comes right before the tag "economics", i.e. it's a text search of the tag field. Not quite what I need. :(

7/24/2007 5:31 PM  
Blogger Rob Szarka said...

Apparently,

tag:math tag:economics

is what I need. :)

/me gets excited again

7/24/2007 5:32 PM  
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7/24/2007 7:05 PM  
Blogger jotamac said...

Nothing short of brilliant! If one could mix this innovation with Pottermania, and your next addition were a spell (castable by all life members, for instance) then we could all Tagmashiamus!! our libraries...

7/24/2007 7:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Terrific feature. It seems that you guys never stop coming up with sharp improvements. This site is very quickly rising to the top of all book related sites. Congrats.

7/24/2007 11:30 PM  
Blogger Prosfilaes said...

More tags like France in World War II might appear if LibraryThing tags weren't forced to be short; I stopped using the tag "20th century British literature" because it cut off the end of the tag.

7/25/2007 5:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

> Where is it?

It is now built in in the 'Tags' field under Site search on the search page.

7/25/2007 6:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now I feel guilty about having such generic tags...I thought I was doing well with nearly 2.5 tags per book! Clearly I need to spend more time tagging if I am going to be a contributing member of LibraryThing society...

7/25/2007 2:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally my obsession (or is it investment) in tagging my LibraryThing books with the proper and adequate tags has paid off! Thanks LT. Since I had wanted some way of getting better recommendations and also without having to have those books in my own catalog. I probably have 400 or so non-fiction books and am not going to set aside all the time needed to add them. I'm going to order that CueCat USB scanner and do it the easy (and cheap) way I love LT even more now.

Now all I need is a wishlist function to integrate easier with my bookswapping inventory with TitleTrader and BookMooch.

Is LT working on more features that integrate bookswapping or 'books I WANT to read or own' i.e. WishLists?!?

8/05/2007 1:13 AM  
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